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Thursday,11 October, 2012
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Hi All….   not a boat owner ….yet…   but near retiring thinking ahead about two boats….  are they best controlled breasted up or towing?…

and…. how do you slow and stop the towed boat…. if its not under power and can’t slip into reverse?

 

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Roger 

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Thursday,11 October, 2012
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Before I answer the question, can I ask why you want to saddle yourself with two boats?

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Saturday,13 October, 2012
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Thank you for your reply. I was hoping for friendly advice but I find your question somewhat patronising. If a full explanation of my reasoning for considering two boats is a condition of your advice I guess I’ll just have to look elsewhere  

apart from that…….   I have enjoyed reading through your information

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Saturday,13 October, 2012
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I was asking for more information so that I could offer you better advice. If you have read through the posts and threads on the site, you will know that my intention is not to patronise anyone.

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Sunday,14 October, 2012
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I have read through your posts and you always seem like a nice bloke which is why i was suprised to see your response to what i thought was a simple question was conditional on my telling why i was “saddling myself with two boats”  This suggested that you thought the option ill conceived and dissapproved of this idea.

I didn’t ask “what you thought of two boats” so did not think you needed to know the back ground.

I like green, my wife likes blue

she smokes, i don’t

I want a dog she doesn’t

I get up early she lies in

I’m pretty noisy, she likes quiet

etc …etc … etc…

 

All pretty manageable in a surburban semi with a large garden but could easily cause problems on a small boat

So why negotiate unsatisfactory comprimise when its possible to each have our own space and still travel together

‘living the dream’

 

So, If you are prepared to give it your consideration……. breasted up or in line?……   how do you stop the towed boat?

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Sunday,14 October, 2012
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Hi Wainbody

Never towed a butty myself but have come across lots of hotel boats that do. Why not book a couple of nights away on one. I’m sure most of the owners would be only too glad to help with your question, I think you’d learn a lot. If that’s not an option some of the old working pairs of boats have volunteers who love to speak with anyone with a genuine interest, there is a pair based at Braunston marina I think.

Lastly I don’t know how much room each boat would need but I have seen one that was a boat in two halves. Rather than a motored boat pulling an unpowered one, the unpowered one was being pushed by the other and connected by chains so if the overall length is no more than 70ft you’ll get through most narrow locks in one go.

Good luck with the plans

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Sunday,14 October, 2012
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Thanks for your suggestions James …..    by coincidence  I saw a pair of Hotel Narrowboats today at Hatton Locks they were tied together side by side although this may have been just to negotiate the locks

A holiday on one of those could well be the way to get some practical experience

regards

 

Roger

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Monday,15 October, 2012
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De-Ogz said

Lastly I don’t know how much room each boat would need but I have seen one that was a boat in two halves. Rather than a motored boat pulling an unpowered one, the unpowered one was being pushed by the other and connected by chains so if the overall length is no more than 70ft you’ll get through most narrow locks in one go.

Jim, one of our engineers at the marina, has a setup like that. He has, I think, a 30′ pusher tug with an unpowered 50′ butty in front. Even though the total length is 80′ he manages the canals around here well enough. He can even get the combination through the marina entrance which takes a bit of doing. Of course, he has to take them apart at the locks and, depending upon the canal, either put them through side by side or one after the other.

Another two factors to consider with this type of arrangement are licensing and mooring fees. In Jim’s case the cost of the combination is £596.95 a year for the powered tug. He has to pay for the butty too, but I’m not sure at what rate. I’ll find out later today. The moorings fees are the thing to watch though. Think carefully about where you’re going to moor and find out what mooring costs you’re likely to face. If you’re considering a marina for full time/winter moorings, please be aware that there’s a good chance that you’ll be charged fees for both the boat and the butty.

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Tuesday,16 October, 2012
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Thanks for your contribution Paul and for your mention in the news letter – mooring charges are a good point. This could mount up over the year.

Roger

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Tuesday,16 October, 2012
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Well… for anyone following this thread I came across this site tonight which goes a long way to anwering my question

http://narrowboatpairforsale.b…..-pair.html

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Wednesday,17 October, 2012
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wainbody said
Well… for anyone following this thread I came across this site tonight which goes a long way to anwering my question

http://narrowboatpairforsale.b…..-pair.html

That’s great information Roger, very useful. Just the cost of the licensing and moorings to consider now.

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