Living retirement in the slow lane.
20 years hiring, 6 years of shared ownership and a Continuous Cruiser since 2007 but still learning!
I think the main problem is that the “neighbourhoods” which a boater must pass through to comply with the regulations haven’t been defined. It’s a very grey area where one neighbourhood ends and the next begins. At one stage the Trust were going to make maps available with the neighbourhood boundaries shown on them. Until they define the neighbourhoods in black and white there is always going to room for argument.
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I don’t really buy that. If a boater stays in place A for 14 days then moves 1/2 mile to place B for the next 14 days before moving another 1/2 mile for a further 14 days before moving back to place A, he’s clearly taking the piss.
The guidance notes say: What constitutes a ‘neighbourhood’ will vary from area to area – on a rural waterway a village or hamlet may be a neighbourhood and on an urban waterway a suburb or district within a town or city may be a neighbourhood. A sensible and pragmatic judgement needs to be made. Seems fairly clear to me.
According to CRT, there 600 boats that hardly move at all.
Living retirement in the slow lane.
20 years hiring, 6 years of shared ownership and a Continuous Cruiser since 2007 but still learning!
Sorry Paul I have to agree with pearley.
Spoon feeding CC’ers with exacting guidelines for every foot of canal only provides those who don’t wish to engage in bona fide navigation with ammunition to exploit such to their maximum advantage. Most of them know what bona fide navigation entails but hide behind a facade of dimwittedness in insisting further guidelines are necessary. They force C&RT to waste time and money that could certainly be spent far more usefully elsewhere, whilst bringing genuine CC’ers into disrepute.
Regards – Richard –
Ecky Thump
It was a beautiful day on Sunday and I went for a walk down Tardebigge locks (all 58). I was doing a rekey as I have to tackle them in a few weeks’ time. There were lots of people walking dogs. I was saying good morning in pasting with very few acknowledgements.
An old boy was going down the locks single handed and I helped him through a couple, although he didn’t seem to appreciate help from a gorgonzola.
He said he was knackered and was going to moor up for the day and have a rest.
As I carried on I heard a motor bike coming up from behind and stepped off the path to let him pass. It was a quad bike which was just wide enough for the path which passed at speed without so much as a thank you, splattering me with mud as he went.
I was most surprise to see CRT Inspector on the back of his high viz jacket!
I was taking photos from a bridge later when the quad bike passed going back.
Later I was walking back when I saw the old chap reversing back through the lock he had earlier come down.
I was curious and asked was there a problem. After deciphering the tirade of abuse that followed I understood that the CRT inspector didn’t like where he had moored and made him go back up to the previous pound.
I thought I was getting away from traffic wardens, I do hope that this was an exception and not the future.
I was telling my 11year old that it’s a shame that nobody can be bothered to say good morning anymore.
He replied. “I think it might be that you look like a serial killer dad!”
Thanks son
This is an exception. The CRT attitude that is. I can only imagine that the pound he had moored in was too short or prone to leakage.
I can only recall two occasions over the years when I’ve been told off by BW. Once at Tardebigge when I was told to open the paddles on the lock below before opening those above (to avoid any water running to waste over the wier) and the other at Knowle on a very windy day (it’s always windy at Knowle) when we only opened one gate and promptly hit it as the wind took us.
Regards
Pete
Living retirement in the slow lane.
20 years hiring, 6 years of shared ownership and a Continuous Cruiser since 2007 but still learning!
Actually the CRT base their advice on the decision of one county court judge (that in my professional view was wrongly decided -I read the judgement!) and they treat it as if it was binding on all other judges. Unfortunately it is not! It is only “persuasive” on other courts and I suspect will not be followed at some point and probably distinguished on any Appeal. In any event the Judge expressly said that he was NOT fully endorsing their guidance and he could envisage circumstances where a boat would qualify under the law even though it fell short of their interpretation of a CC. The point was Davies was literally moving down the bank 100 yards (as well as not filling in forms or paying his fee and generally being an a***!) which no doubt the Judge took into consideration. There were also various other points and caselaw not argued which may have modified the judges approach. Granted as a lawyer I can argue snow is hot and magma cold!
However, I genuinely think the court was wrong this time!
Not everyone can afford to retire and spend their life in a leisured cruise from one end of he cut to another but, need to work at least part of the time. So as long as they actually move (as opposed to claiming to be a cc’er and squatting on the bank without moving) and do not monopolise visitor moorings (most of my friends prefer to be out the way) then where is the harm?
They may not spend huge amounts of time outside their home areas (however that maybe defined) but I cannot see the problem other than perhaps their use of the cut means that the shortcomings of CRT’s maintenance gets shown up regularly as they are there to report it! (Elsan points overflowing and broken for weeks, water points not working, etc!)
Likewise, the areas where there ARE overcrowding issues may need special rules. I know of one area where the demand exceeds supply but that mooring owners actually moor upstream as it is a nicer spot but no one else can use their “permanent” mooring.
However, having been looking at this matter for some time I think a lot of it is jealousy (“We have to pay mooring fees. So why not them?”) or snobbishness (“We have a pretty holiday boat with nice decorated cans but those cc’ers have all sorts of ugly logs and coal on their roofs”, Granted there are some boats that water rats would refuse to squat in) or simply an intolerance of those with an alternative lifestyle. Again I have met some (I regularly walk a rather busy stretch of canal) who stretch even my tolerance but, basically each to their own.
(I suspect that when CRT completes the BW sell off of the family silver (it inherited a much reduced -BW could not sell it ALL off before the crash- but still tasty property portfolio) it will then start raising the fees to raise money so that will drive a lot off and they can then close the entire cut down November to March every year and only have to deal with pretty summer holiday boaters. I DARE someone to tell me that is not the plan! Go on!)
Oh, and Pearly & Richardhua…, it took me 4.5 HOURS to navigate by boat a 5 mile stretch on the cut that I can WALK in an hour and 20mins! So that was a good days cruise through 4 locks and at least 4 separate geographical, legal and administrative “places”. Yet I could travel the next 5miles in half the time and cross three more places, two counties and a regional boundary! So I am afraid that there IS a need for some sort of guidance.
Whatever they do will not please everyone but, the current dogs breakfast is not working at all!
“Never give up, never leave anyone behind!”
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I was telling my 11year old that it’s a shame that nobody can be bothered to say good morning anymore.
He replied. “I think it might be that you look like a serial killer dad!”
Thanks son
Don’t you just love kids!…Preferably spit roasted!
Yours has the same rogue gene as mine! Not long ago I was commenting that instead of mellowing with age my “bulls**T tolerance level was diminishing”. My son (20) says “Thats OK Dad. You’ve just finally become a grumpy old sod!
Ah Bless!
“Never give up, never leave anyone behind!”
“Life is NOT a dress rehearsal !”
” I am NOT a 'civilian'…I am ex-military!”
“Once I was , young, handsome and immortal ! These days… I think immortality is overrated!”
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