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10 year plan
laying plans now ready for retirement
Saturday,2 December, 2017
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Hi 

I’m Chris.

My wife and I are laying plans for our retirement in around 10 yrs.  The original plan was to be grey (Bald in my case) Nomads here in Oz but after serious consideration we’ve decided against it.  I’m originally from the Midlands and grew up next to the Trent & Mersey.  Spent many many hours on its towpath and waters.  It’s a final sea change for us so I’m starting the research early to make sure its the right thing.  The plan is to spend a few holidays back in UK summer and winter on a hire boat.  I have what would be a healthy budget at the minute to buy a reasonably new boat and there seems to be a lot to choose from.  I’m  a mechanic by trade so maintenance costs hopefully should be a little lower but this is why I’m in here to see what the hidden costs and potential pitfalls can be.  I’ve got the budget planner and downloaded the free booklet so that should keep me going for a while.  The idea is to be constantly cruising.  I have itchy feet and the idea of being stuck in one place doesn’t appeal in the slightest.  Looking forward to picking your brains for info and ideas.  I have ten years to stash away the living costs for life afloat.  Cant wait to start !!!!

Kind Regards to Everyone.  I look forward to getting to know you

 

Chris

Saturday,2 December, 2017
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Welcome to the forum Chris. You’ve certainly taken your forward planning seriously. I hope that you’re still as keen in 2027 as you are now.

Here’s another option for you. Winters afloat on England’s inland waterways can be a little tedious. I know a number of Antipodeans who cruise the waterways during the warmer months, then put their boats into storage for the winter and return to the southern hemisphere in the autumn to warmer weather. Just a thought.

Please don’t hesitate to ask questions on the forum. You’ll always get an answer.

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Saturday,2 December, 2017
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Don’t believe him. Winters are great on the Canals. Exercising your brain working out a cruising route that avoids CRT stoppages, anxiously hoping you can get to the next water point before the temperature drops, practicing your steering skills going crab wise in 30 mph winds, seeing how many layers of clothes you can wear and still wind a paddle up.

But seriously near empty Canals in a strong winter sun steering whilst standing in the hatch with heat coming up from below, almost heaven. 

Living retirement in the slow lane.

20 years hiring, 6 years of shared ownership and a Continuous Cruiser since 2007 but still learning!

Sunday,3 December, 2017
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Thanks for the welcome.  I can remember winters in the UK.  I was fishing the River Severn once and it was so cold the gas froze in my camping cooker. Ive also experienced Canadian and Scandinavian winters. I lived in a hut next to the Baltic for a while just outside Stockholm.  Suitable clothing and lots of it are the solution 🙂  Or a pub with a big fire.  Ten years is a long way off I know and a lot can change in that time, health would be my main concern however I could put it all off and be perfectly healthy for the next 30 years and regret never having done it.  The old adage that “you dont plan to fail you fail to plan” springs to mind.  

I’m sure by the time I do this technology will have developed to the point where a mains electric hook up would be almost redundant with the way battery technology and solar power are going.  Even with the UK’s intermittant sunshine solar panels will have be become a lot more efficient and battery technology is moving forward at lightning speeds thanks to the motor industry and Elon Musk.

My first question would be what do the CRA consider a reasonable distance when moving from one mooring to another when youve used up your allowed mooring time.

Sunday,3 December, 2017
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Ignore that question I’ve just found the answer 🙂

Sunday,3 December, 2017
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pearley said

But seriously near empty Canals in a strong winter sun steering whilst standing in the hatch with heat coming up from below, almost heaven.   

I couldn’t agree more. I thoroughly enjoyed winter cruising (apart from those occasions when I had to tackle locks single handed on sub zero days and had to tackle the “walk of death” from the bottom of an icy lock ladder along a boat roof more slippery than a skating rink!). The cold didn’t bother me. It was wading through inches of liquid mud along a towpath to and from my boat which got me down, especially when I had to spend ten minutes cleaning dog paws after a middle of the night wee break.

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Monday,4 December, 2017
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Not an issue the cleaning. I have a wife  (running for cover )

Monday,4 December, 2017
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ChristopherHowe said
Not an issue the cleaning. I have a wife  (running for cover )  

You are either a very brave man, or you have a wife who doesn’t read your forum posts!

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Thursday,7 December, 2017
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the latter

Thursday,14 December, 2017
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Spent the last week reading articles about over wintering on a boat and have come to the conclusion that a permanent mooring is the go.  Cruise around all summer/spring and autumn and have a home base for winter.  Looking at the UK weather at the minute and I reckon being close to amenities is the way we want to go.  CRT offers many winter moorings but none seem to be particularly close to water, pump out, elsan facilities.  Its almost as cheap to rent a 12month mooring in a marina as it is to rent a 5 month over winter one from CRT. I appreciate there will be council tax but more than likely at min rate.  I still think this will outweigh the inconvenience of having to move every couple of weeks and trying to find water and pump out/elsan facilities every week.  I’d imagine moving around at winter with ice would wreak havoc with the the pitch on the hull.  We still intend to spend a few winter weeks on a hire boat in winter before taking the plunge to get a taste of whats possibly in store.  If it works out then good, if it doesn’t then all options are still on  the table

Friday,15 December, 2017
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You don’t have to use CRT for winter moorings Chris. There are many privately owned marinas which will allow you to stay for a few months over the winter. My old base, Calcutt Boats, allowed some boaters to stay for the winter. It was a bit hit and miss getting permission. I think that the criteria they used was whether the boaters were pleasant and kept their boats in a reasonable condition. Marina’s aren’t generally keen on filling their moorings with scruffy boats.

Council tax is usually only charged if the mooring is officially residential. Many aren’t.

Only a very think layer of ice is needed to completely strip the hull paint at the waterline. A quarter of an inch is enough. Cruising isn’t the only problem. You also have to worry about being moored on a canal-side mooring when a festive hire boater with a deadline to reach ploughs through the ice next to your boat launching pointed shards into your hull. Steel boats just run the risk of losing a little hull paint. GRP boats stand a chance of being holed.

An offline fully serviced mooring is certainly the best way to protect your boat, and the best way to avoid the worry of trying to reach essential amenities when the canal is frozen. Just make sure that you can reach or use the marina facilities while you are there. If you have a pump out toilet you need to keep an eye on the weather so you aren’t frozen into a mooring with a full tank. Also check to make sure that the water taps are useable in very cold temperatures. Some marina taps have frost protection. Some don’t.

Once you’ve resolved the logistical issues, winter is a wonderful time to be afloat if you have a good heating system on a well insulated boat. It’s a wonderful feeling walking along a frost hardened towpath, stepping onto your boat and into a warm cabin with a multi fuel stove filled with glowing coals. I miss it very much.

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Tuesday,19 December, 2017
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Thanks Paul

I’m still a few years away from doing this and really enjoying the research into it.  Winter is my only real concern, not so much the living in it after the winters here but as you say the logistical side of things.  But there’s nothing insurmountable and cant be resolved.  Its given me a whole new lease of life having something to work towards.  I wasn’t looking forward to retiring here to be honest.

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